Nintendo Dsi and the nintendo wii have bigger pircay rates that pc gaming does. Nintendo has like over a billions woth on pirated games on their machines.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/1-Billion-Dollars-Worth-Pirated-DS-Games-Were-Seized-83135.shtml

Console game devs are losing more money on consoles withhigh production costs, the used game market and pirated games. That is why there is no new consoles and console game devs are going bankurpt right left and center.

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/05/e3-predictions/

mircosft and sony is losing billions on consoles, both companies are in the red. the only year microsft was not in the red was in 2008. They have been trying to force pc gamers in buying consoles. It is the reason more and more pc gamers are now buying their games online.

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/39622/Microsoft-Explain-PC-Game-Release-Delays

things for consoles game Industry is real bad in this recssion too. It's getting worse because console games are now on a decline too.

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/31/video-game-makers-seeing-red/

Nearly every industry's hurting in a recession. And everybody wants to make their plight sound dire. But the risk to video game developers is highly exaggerated.  They are suffering no more and considerably less than workers in other industries. Ask your average auto-worker how they feel about the recession and you'll get a considerably darker outlook? Younger financial services workers who were laid off in droves will have a similar tail. Even teachers and healthcare workers are being laid off in large numbers and education traditionally booms in a tight job market and healthcare is one of the biggest components of our economy.

In contrast Game sales were still booming at least up until the very end of 2008. I haven't seen statistics since then but I haven't heard anything about game sales going down. And Nintendo is breaking records with Wii console sales.

If the game industry is having problems it's largely their own fault for overproduction costs on games and making bad decisions running into a recession. Also a lot of it is carry over problems from retailers who are hurting and so are leaning more on game producers to share more of the profits in order to carry their games.

No, Developers as a group, game and other types, by and large are doing just fine. I see very little in the way of anything that can seriously be called suffering yet. And little of any hardships they deal with can reasonably be placed at the hands of piracy. Piracy has been pretty steady.

Sure independent developers sometimes have a hard time, especially in a down economy, but to blame piracy for their hardships is to miss the forest for the trees. Being independent MEANS having a hard time.  It's specifically letting yourself forego the protections of industry so that you can develop games according to your own will.  Piracy laws are in no way to protect them.

Historically it was what we call "piracy" today that was what enabled the movie industry and music industry in the U.S. to thrive and compete against global competitors. It's as American as Apple Pie. It's just in recent days when technology  became so powerful as to enable regular people to "pirate" that it's suddenly become sooo terrible and horrible and bad and has to be STOPPED. 

When it's done to the benefit of big business nobody bates an eyelash.

@Dargon@xanga - I can see this sentiment.

I bought a copy of The Witcher for PC - the goddamn thing wouldn't work for WEEKS until I was able to find a patch that disabled the protection. For the un-knowing the copy protection is called TAGES and what it does it is essentially has two different sets of data in the same logical place on the CD (think of two houses sharing the same address) - Depending on how the CD is accessed, different data shows up. What this does is create confusion when the disk is read or copied - so that if the disk is copied, a vital part of the game (a main character for example) is not present and thus the game is unplayable. The GAME knows which is which, and so, on a legit copy of the game, the information is there, but your CD burner does not - so it skips the hidden data. The game was fantastic, but I will never EVER again purchase anything with the TAGES logo on it, or ProjektRED for that matter.

Prince of Persia? That shit didn't even ask for a CD key, and when my CD broke - i re-bought it.
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