I use wavedashing too. Although I also do this thing that depending on the situation I can change my grip on the controller to putting my fingers on top so I have faster access to certain buttons although it makes it harder for me to defend. I pretty much use it just to ensure a KO in a touch situation.

Yes, I know and used both of those techniques. I feel I am tournament ready for many many games that I play. Going in-depth and learning "Tricks-of-the-Trade" of any game is a sign of true hardcore fan-dom, and becoming a legit pro in games does nothing but good for the soul :P.

Tekken wave dashing.

This reminds me of how notable pro-Starcraft players can micro-manage each unit to overpower their opponent.

The whole concept of advanced techniques is rather mystifying to me. I don't hate people for using them, but I do take offense to advanced techniques that clearly subvert the spirit of the game.

I never got heavy into Mario Kart DS, but I knew a guy who could not STAND snaking, and he could never position his thumbs comfortably to perform it because he has some kind of arthritic condition. He was good, otherwise, but he just could not snake.

The thing about the implementation of some of these techniques is that they tend to render other techniques moot. Rather than being a competition involving the balance several skills, the game becomes a contest in one particular skill that some people just may not be able to grasp.

I don't blame the players so much as the play-testers. A developer should either find and remove unintended mechanics, or work them into the game.

Maybe people wouldn't be so intimidated by wavedashing if it was in the manual.

There is a fine line between "advanced technique" and exploit. These definitely flirt with that line. 

I just wanted to note that your Super Smash Bros. Brawl picture is misleading. The "Wavedashing Tourney Whore" doesn't exist in Brawl because there isn't any Wavedashing in Brawl.

But yeah, with the topic, I wholeheartedly agree with Icecold4u. When you're serious about a competitive game, the logical thing to do would be to try to be the best that you can by mastering advanced techniques. Sure you may scare casual gamers away, but that doesn't mean you can't still have a good time playing casual games. A hardcore gamer can still play casual matches.

@typewriterromances@xanga - @dragonblade1214@xanga - I suppose that a hardcore gamer doesn't have to baby a casual gamer; but what I think dragonblade's point was that if honorable enough, a hardcore gamer won't snake 'advanced' techniques just to frustrate someone else.

I play with my mom sometimes; and I tone down the pressure I would put on when I play with my brother.

Yea I've used them before...snaking for sure, wavedashing...not to that extent. I think it just comes from playing a lot lol

to me, there are no exploits. if i know about them i will use them to my advantage to win and so should you.

@typewriterromances@xanga - I agree that there are times when casual gamers become frustrated with playing seasoned players. But yeah, like DenimPants said, it is very possible to play an enjoyable game between the two if the better player tones down his or her gameplay.

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